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Enhancing Flatiron Park



WHAT TO DO WITH CHAMBER BUILDING? That was one of the main questions posed Monday night during the revealing of the Flatiron Park design plan. But for now there appears to be no answer. "The chamber building has pretty much been ignored in this plan," Alderman Todd Krause said. Geneva Lake Area Chamber of Commerce Executive Director George Hennerley said he hasn't been involved in any of the discussions regarding the reworking of Flatiron Park. "I know a lot of meetings have taken place on this (plan)," Hennerley said. "But, I have not been consulted on any part of this plan." Hennerley said the chamber is in need of a larger building. He said the chamber has some money set aside for future building or renovations. Hennerley said the chamber needs about 40 percent more space than what it has now. "Nobody knew what was going to happen with the facility," Public Works Director and Beautification Committee member Dan Winkler said. "I don't think whatever is done will affect the stage or the open area in the park." Not everyone had that same belief. "I like the overall concept," Krause said. "But the chamber building has been ignored. Where do we go with that building?" Members of the council didn't understand why the chamber building wasn't taken into account when the plans were made. "It doesn't make sense to have a plan and not decide on the future of the chamber," Krause said. Council members agreed unofficially that more thought must go into the future of the chamber and whether it will remain in that location.
August 04, 2010 | 09:13 AM
By next summer, Flatiron Park could look much different than it does today.

There could be an open space in the middle with an elevated stage for performances and bands, a new pavilion for weddings, a water feature and walkways.

For nearly two years, the Committee for the Beautification of Lake Geneva has been focused on a design plan to improve Flatiron Park. Drawings and maps were presented Monday night to the City Council in an effort to discuss options for the park's renovation.

Public Works Director and Beautification Committee member Dan Winkler said the ideas were being brought forward now to the council so work on the park could occur during the reconstruction of the Wrigley Drive bridge. That work is expected to start in October and be completed by Memorial Day weekend.

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"If you are planning on these improvements, it would be a good opportunity to build the parts you want," Winkler said. "The Wrigley Drive bridge work will greatly reduce the number of people in the park and you could get this work done. It's a great time to do it."

But, the focus of the council discussion during the Committee of the Whole meeting clearly was on the elements of the park rather than the timing of the work.

Beautification Committee member Grace Eckland presented the plan, which she said has been discussed by the Park Board, public, City Council members and local stakeholders.

The key features of the design plan include walkways in the park that all lead to the "ceremony" open space in the middle of the park. Next to that will be the elevated stage and on the other side the ceremony gazebo. A splash water feature is on the drawing along with more plantings around the Three Graces Fountain and a sidewalk on the east side of the park along Center Street. The other additions include the pedestrian pathways leading to walkways across Wrigley Drive and include speed humps to slow down traffic.

One aspect Eckland said will remain the same in the park is the view of the lake.

"We wanted to make sure the view remained undisturbed," Eckland said. "Riviera Park draws people and is an exceptional area for us and that is the same thing we want to do for Flatiron Park."

But, many other pieces were up for discussion and comment from city officials, including the fact that the Chamber of Commerce building was left as is.

"I like the overall look and the emphasis on the pedestrian traffic," Alderman Tom Hartz said. "I also like the stage area for events and the ceremony space."

Alderman Bill Mott said he liked the entire plan, but that the chamber building must be a part of the concept.

Alderwoman Mary Jo Fesenmaier said she liked the stage and gazebo, but not the water feature.

Two aspects of the plan did not sit well with a majority of the council members. Those were the roundabouts at the intersections of Wrigley and Broad and Wrigley and Center streets and a porous road on the north side of the park next to the existing Chamber building. Eckland said the porous road could be used when Wrigley Drive is closed to traffic. During the other times of the year, it would be a walking path.

One piece that received mixed reviews were speed humps for the pedestrian crosswalks. Alderwoman Arleen Krohn questioned the effect on the city's plowing equipment.

Eckland and Winkler said the humps are not like typical speed bumps. They are more like small ramps up and then down. Winkler said a driver can feel it when proceeding over them at more than 25 mph, but not much if driving slower. He said the main use for them is to visually alert drivers that pedestrians are crossing. Sometimes the humps include colored or stamped pavement.

According to Eckland, the speed humps are used in Madison and "have proven to be friendly for snow plowing."

Although Krohn said she did not like the idea of the speed humps, Hartz said he would like to see something like that incorporated throughout the city, specifically the downtown areas to improve pedestrian safety.

After the discussion, Winkler said the Beautification Committee will pursue designs for the stage, walkways, gazebo and possibly the speed humps.

"We will look at the components they were in favor of," Winkler said of the council.

After that, projects approved by the council could be bid out with construction occurring in late fall or early spring.

Tax Incremental Financing District No. 4 funds will pay for the work in the park. The Beautification Committee provided no figures as to the total cost of the project.

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    ROUNDABOUTS?!?!
    August 04, 2010 | 12:52 PM

    Roundabouts are the most dangerous confusing pain in the neck things that they ever came up with. Traffic in Lake Geneva is a big enough mess without putting Roundabouts in. They are extremely user "Unfriendly". Pleeeeeeez dont!!!!!!!

    Deb
    Lake Geneva
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    Dumb question, I know...
    August 04, 2010 | 01:01 PM

    If this plan is approved, what happens to Venetian Fest????
    I hope somebody is thinking about the tradition of that event while they are busy spending some more of our money!

    hhmmm
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    Good question!
    August 04, 2010 | 01:15 PM

    In the story, I failed to mention that Beautification Committee members stated they met with those involved with the Jaycees (among others in the community) regarding these plans. Appeared to not be a problem, but I also haven't yet spoken to anyone from the Jaycees to verify that.
    This issue isn't going away and it will continue to be covered as more information is provided. Thanks for reading.

    Lisa the Editor
    LG
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    Roundabouts
    August 04, 2010 | 02:04 PM

    Trust me, I had the same thought years ago when I saw these things for the first time but after using them many times since, & talking to police, I actually think that they are far safer than what we curently have by taking our chances. Many are used all over the state of Wisconsin and many more are being constructed. If this was such a bad idea then they wouldn't be so abundant.
    The only thing that they are going to need to stop is the semis attempting to come through starting at the new 120 & old 120 intersection very soon. I can not see a 40' semi driver even attempting that manuver. I don't care how good he thinks he is.

    D
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    A couple of questions.
    August 04, 2010 | 03:08 PM

    I couldn't help but wonder where the money's coming from? Tax dollars? Private donations? If it is in fact tax dollars, then that begs the question do we really need to be spending this money at this time? What's the rush to get this done? I'd love to hear the answers to those questions.

    As for roundabouts, it's a terrible idea, especially in that location. I can just imagine the confusion not only with traffic, but with boats and pedestrians as well.

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    Roundabouts work great...
    August 04, 2010 | 04:02 PM

    Most drivers don't...

    B...
    Como
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    Committee of the Whole Meeting
    August 04, 2010 | 09:33 PM

    There are to points I heard watching the meeting. 1st. I heard Mr. Krause said he has all his emails he receives on his City Hall address sent to his personal email address. My question is this is that or should that be allowed with all the mess of Mirabeau Hummel? 2nd.. I believe the man's name is Mr. Neil who commented that he was not voted on to the Park board with 6 negaitive Counsel votes. He said the only one who gave him an answer as to why they voted no was because he is friends with Spryo Condo's. If this is true that is not a good reason for denial. did anyone else catch those comments?

    Local Citizen
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    No more cement sidewalks in parks
    August 05, 2010 | 11:40 AM

    The 3 problems I have with this plan is the additional sidewalks, the water feature, and the stage. I don't think the city needs any more sidewalks to maintain (grinding to reduce trip hazards, snow removal, future repairs) and sidewalks within the park detract from the park. The water feature and stage area is just plain nuts. Again, I cite ongoing maintenance, and if a water feature were to be added to the lakefront- why not at the beach where it could be monitored during the summer? A little larger covered pavilion in the center of the park to replace the current gazebo and built out of maintenance free materials would be a welcome addition.
    I welcome speed bumps and roundabouts. They do slow down traffic and without sitting at a light. The same people who cannot manage a roundabout also seem to have difficulty with on/off ramp merges. Practice and you'll be able to manage.

    been here since 92
    LKG
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    Think before your spend
    August 06, 2010 | 07:19 AM

    The shortest distance between two points is a straight line not a curved sidewalk. The sidewalks through the park are a complete waste of money and green space, not to mention the amount of maintenance that will need to be done with them. Oh yea, did the beautification committee talk to public works on who is going to take care of all the new stuff?? A water feature!! Come on, what do you call the fountain that bleeds money in front of the Riv, we don't need it this isn't Vegas, and they are ridiculously expensive to keep working (thank you tax payers). Speed bumps are able to be plowed, really? Well at least they were able to be talked out of the in ground sprinkling system that was originally planned.

    jjk
    taxpayer
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    ???
    August 06, 2010 | 07:59 PM

    There are so many things wrong with this plan; I hardly know where to start.

    Flatiron Park is fine just as it is--as a park with grass, trees, Andy Gump, the Three Sisters, the gazebo, and space for Venetian Fest, not as a labyrinth of sidewalks, fountains, and a stage. Changing Flatiron Park so radically is really taking away its charm.

    Roundabouts? Really??? I can't even find words...And what about the boat launch? With roundabouts? Again, no words...

    Speed bumps? Again, I'm having trouble finding the words...Trailer park comes to mind...

    I have lived in Lake Geneva my entire life and I cringe when I hear of "enhancing" something or a "beautification project" because it usually means that more of Lake Geneva's quaint aura has been jeopardized.

    4th generation resident
    Lake Geneva
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    A performance Venue would be nice
    August 09, 2010 | 11:59 AM

    A performance venue, that includes a covered stage, would open the park up for more performances by various groups. This is a gorgeous space and if such a venue was built in a tasteful manner that complimented this park, then it could be a very welcome addition to downtown. I also agree that speed bumps and roundabouts are totally not necessary.

    EricH
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    I agree
    August 10, 2010 | 09:04 AM

    I think a performance venue, that includes a covered stage like Delavans would be nice.Raise them up so all can see plus get rid of the concrete slab they have now.
    They could also use it for the groups that play at Venetian Fest.I would leave the rest alone.Please no round abouts or speed bumps.

    Doug
    Lake geneva
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    After looking the site
    August 10, 2010 | 09:59 AM

    in question over very carefully I can see where the speed bumps would hamper traffic & the roundabout would not work because of the boaters at the ramp.
    However, what would work would be one way traffic on Center street going North.
    They wouldn't even have to change anything because traffic coming South on Wrigley would simply turn into Center Street if they wish to go to any of those businesses or the Post Office. This also would be benificial to traffic on WI-50 at Center Street because you won't be tying up traffic there.

    D
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    Finally!
    August 10, 2010 | 10:15 AM

    Someone with an idea that doesn't cost more than changing the lines on 50 and putting up a few "DO NO ENTER" signs.
    Smart poster!!! Hope the powers to be get to read this.

    Trouble Maker >:^)
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    An idea
    August 10, 2010 | 10:17 AM

    What about a shell for the musicians like they have in Elkhorn???

    Resident of
    Elkhorn
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    CHANGE
    August 10, 2010 | 11:11 AM

    WHAT A STUPID IDEA!

    LIFE LONG RESIDENT
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    For a moment there
    August 10, 2010 | 03:20 PM

    I thought we got rid of all the sarcastic remarks!
    Must have been a figment of my imagination.

    ME
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    send them all out behind WalMart and run in the open parks
    August 10, 2010 | 05:17 PM

    Leave it all alone and lets enjoy our LAKE. Use the $$ to fund new city magmnt. Some one who knows what the people want and not what what were told we will want.

    W
    LG
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