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November 17, 2010 | 09:07 AM
It will be up to the Lake Geneva City Council whether the Area Chamber of Commerce building will be expanded in Flatiron Park. Already, members of the Plan Commission have agreed they don't like the idea.

On Monday night, planners voted 5-1 not to allow an addition to the building toward the Andy Gump statue along Wrigley Drive. That recommendation will go the council.

Currently, the Chamber of Commerce owns the building, but the land is owned by the city. The chamber rents the property and the current lease runs through 2020, unless an agreement is reached to end the lease. During recent discussions about the future of Flatiron Park, questions arose about the Chamber of Commerce's needs for the future.

Lake Geneva Area Chamber of Commerce Executive Director George Hennerley reported that an expansion plan was in the works to fulfill the future needs of the chamber.

"My feeling on this is ultimately I would like to see that building gone," Alderman and Plan Commissioner Tom Hartz said of the building. "But, I also understand the rights the Chamber has. My sense is that it is a park and it should be returned to being a park."

However, on Monday, Hennerley said he was confused by the discussion following the last time the issue was in front of the council.

On Oct. 25 during the city's regular meeting, initially the council voted 5-3 to approve the chamber expansion.

Shortly thereafter the issue was reconsidered after discussing changing the shoreland ordinance to allow the expansion.

That's when the council reconsidered the previous decision and voted 7-1 against the chamber expansion and to send it back to the Plan Commission to make a recommendation on the project.

Mayor Jim Connors said that's what the Plan Commission was discussing Monday night. Hartz was adamant about his feelings regarding the future of the chamber building in Flatiron Park.

"My sense is that Flatiron Park and all the discussions we have had, the public would like to have that park remain a park and be as open and flexible as possible," Hartz said. "I think the location of the Chamber of Commerce can easily be accommodated at properties on Broad or Main streets."

Hartz suggested that allowing the chamber to expand at the current location "detracts from the park and is a short-term fix."

But, Commissioner Bryan Poetzinger was in favor of the expansion for the tourists.

"Isn't that what the chamber is for?" he asked.

The chamber building currently includes washrooms, which some aldermen said last month they would like to see remain in the park.

However, Connors said the washrooms are dated and there are other problems with the building location — specifically the difficulty maneuvering the parking lot.

"My opinion is that it is not the best location for walk-in traffic," Connors said of tourists. "There are quite a few opportunities in other places."

Hennerley said he is not against moving.

"I don't disagree that we can't go somewhere else, but the consensus was that it was a good location," he said.

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    Castle de Hennerly
    November 17, 2010 | 10:07 AM

    I got the distinct impression from the reaction and demeanor of the council members that this was a "done deal". You have the head of the Chamber up there saying how the expansion is not necessary, "we can make do", "we are here to serve you", "whatever you decide"... etc. George was playing devil's advocate and may have fooled some. The reality is, it looks like someone has already decided that this is a good idea and going to happen, regardless. The reality is, the Chamber needs to go someplace else, or just be disbanded. Even Hennerly admitted that they do not get that much walk in traffic. He said people mainly look at the web site or call them.

    Why not ask members of the chamber, or those that were members of the chamber what they think? Why not ask the community? If the chamber really is here to serve us, the businesses, the city, the residents, let us decide.

    For now, I'm gonna side with Hennerly's own statements he made to the council. I don't know the last time I saw a better orchestrated ruse in all my life.

    Totally Opposed
    Lake Geneva
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    Get Real
    November 17, 2010 | 04:40 PM

    The Chamber Building is NOT an eyesore and is in the PERFECT position to serve our out of town tourists. Alderman Hartz appears to have an agenda for the chamber to move. Why, it serves everyone just fine where it's at. If they, the chamber (businesses) feel there is need for an expansion of the current facility .. so be it. I hope the current common council remembers their original vote of 5 to 3 to expand. And ask yourselves, why is this really a major concern anyway.

    Jose
    Lake Geneva
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    November 18, 2010 | 08:54 AM

    If they are to expand it in any direction, why not get rid of the parking lot and go that way? It's not like anyone can really use the parking lot and it's for the benefit of the people it the park (the bathrooms) and other tourists "walking by".

    local resident
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    What happens to the building?
    November 18, 2010 | 09:45 AM

    If the Chamber does wind up moving, as is listed as an option by Hartz and Connors, what happens to the building? The Chamber owns it, there must be some kind of financial stake in it. Will the city buy the building from the Chamber? Will the Chamber just dump the building to move elsewhere? I don't think either of these are feasable, but don't know enough about it to really make a statement

    Jus Wandering
    LG
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    A Park is a Park is a Park...
    November 18, 2010 | 10:16 AM

    It is called "Flat Iron Park" and is deeded as a park. It is not called Chamber of Commerce business park. The parking is ridiculous at best, and the public is better served by the Chamber locating at an entrance..Think of all the people stuck out on hwy 50 on the weekends.

    Live here and welcome more parks
    LKG
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    Confusion
    November 18, 2010 | 12:16 PM

    People are confusing the Chamber itself with the Chamber building. The days of people stopping by to check things out or stopping in to get more information has gone the way of the phone book. Everyone who wants or needs information gets it online. At best, the Chamber needs an office where people can answer calls or talk to the occasional passer-by. With all the open office space, it shouldn't be hard for the Chamber to find a location close to downtown. Let the park be a park and let the Chamber find a new home.

    As for Jose accusation that Alderman Hartz has an agenda, what a revelation, a politician with an agenda! Next thing you'll be telling us is the Pope is Catholic!

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    IF they decide to move to a better location
    November 18, 2010 | 12:19 PM

    why not just turn that building into a public washroom and have storage for the things needed to maintain the park. Ex: plastic bags for garbage, rakes, brooms, shovels...
    Personally I think that the COC should look into the building where the choppers were just in. The COC really doesn't have to worry about bringing in public income because most businesses are looking to deal with them. This site would be better for them than a regular business looking to work on that site again.

    Resident
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    Sorry I didn't include this
    November 18, 2010 | 01:47 PM

    The chamber owns the building. The city owns the park property.
    If the city wants the chamber to leave the park, the option would be for the chamber to move the building to another location or leave the location and give the building to the city. That way, the city could do what it wants with the building (raze it or ??)
    However, there are still questions about who really owns the bathroom part of the building. And, it seemed as if there were remaining questions about what would happen with the building if the chamber left.
    I hope this clears up that question ... as unclear as the issue is still right now.

    Lisa the Editor
    LG
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    The Chamber,
    November 18, 2010 | 03:27 PM

    meaning the businesses of Lake Geneva have a great stake in its future. At present the business community has no desire for the Chamber to move. It's real fine where it is, and to argue the point that it gets hardly a visitor anymore is simply non sense. Why are we making this such an issue of this. Because one or two members of the cities council feel that way ... well it's not up to those two single minded members. The Chamber represents the businesses, and does a fine job of promoting our community. To move the Chamber would NOT be a popular move in the eyes of the Lake Geneva residents.

    And you know what "Enough" ... The Pope Really Is Catholic.

    Jose
    Lake Geneva
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    The Chamber is just another
    November 18, 2010 | 07:42 PM

    special interest group in our City. The difference is they help create revenue, unlike our municipality.
    Here are some of our other special interest groups:
    1. Our million dollar museum
    2. Our library, with technology, how many people will use the library in ten years? Say Kindle.
    3. Church, all know which one.


    enufff
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    Yes, I know
    November 19, 2010 | 10:41 AM

    The Pope is catholic, just like politicians have agendas, which was kinda the point.

    Anyway, I highly doubt that the residents of Lake Geneva are losing sleep over what location the COC calls home. It's not like we're telling Popeye's to move, it's not like the COC is a major tourist attraction. Anywhere downtown would work, and last time I checked, there were more than a couple locations looking for tennants. Makes sense to me to move the COC to another downtown location and absorb that location into the park.

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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