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Joining union fight — on their own time


Lake Geneva Schools business as usual during battle in Madison



CITY UNION REPS WEIGH IN - Sabrina and Neil Waswo are married and work for the city of Lake Geneva. But, they have more than that in common. They also are the union representatives for their respective departments in the city and they both share similar opinions on what's happening in Madison with Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill. Sabrina, who is the union representative for the Lake Geneva Office Employees Association, which are the clerical workers at City Hall, represents a total of six people, including herself. "The big thing is there are a lot of questions and no answers," Sabrina said. "I don't support the bill, but who knows where it is going to go and how it will affect us all." She said questions include when it would start and whether all contracts are included in the stipulations. Neil, the leader of the city's street department union, which includes 10 members, said shop talk before and after work and even during lunch breaks has revolved around the budget repair bill Walker has proposed. But, Neil said, there was never any thought to leave and head to Madison during a work day. "The citizens of Lake Geneva don't need to suffer, especially with the snow coming," Neil said Monday. "Plus, in our contract it says we can't strike or slow work." Sabrina said she doesn't think anyone in her union has an problem paying more with regard to their health insurance premiums and pensions. Walker's bill would increase public employee contributions to health insurance and pensions. It would also eliminate collective bargaining for everything but wages. Sabrina said the collective bargaining issue is the biggest concern with the bill. Neil called the bill a "bum deal." He said the employees in the street department are upset about the possible changes. "Everything we do for salary and benefits is done through bargaining," Neil said. He said that includes vacation time, sick time, hours and other stipulations attained through bargaining. He said the situation is frustrating because local street workers have taken lower wages in order to receive the benefits they desired. Neil hopes there can be a compromise at the state level. The Waswos said they have not attended any rallies in Madison, but both believe even the small unions are being looked at in a negative way. Sabrina said she was saddened to hear some people say that public employees "don't live in the real world." She said she and her fellow employees understand the status of the city and they all pay taxes as well. Neil said he feels the small local unions are "being thrown under the bus" as they are compared to the large unions. Both said they have good relationships with the city and that both sides have always tried to "be fair" during contract negotiations. "We all enjoy working for the city," Neil said about himself and his fellow street workers. Neil also said the Lake Geneva Street Department employees are among the lowest paid in Walworth County. City Administrator Dennis Jordan said he also has a wait-and-see attitude on the situation. But, he said that doesn't mean he's not talking about it. "There's been e-mails flying back and forth between administrators, I've been watching the news and I have friends from all over calling and asking me what's going on in Wisconsin," Jordan said.
February 23, 2011 | 09:07 AM
While school districts in the Madison and Milwaukee areas closed for days last week because teachers called out sick to protest at the State Capitol, work in the Lake Geneva Schools has continued pretty much as normal.

Thousands of teachers and other public employees from around the state have descended on Madison to voice their displeasure of Gov. Scott Walker's budget proposal that would require many public employees to contribute a higher percentage of their pay to their pensions and health insurance and basically put an end to collective bargaining.

But, according to local school officials, Lake Geneva teachers have not called out sick in favor of carrying signs and chanting in the Capitol rotunda.

On Friday, Lake Geneva School Superintendent Jim Gottinger reported the protests had very little effect on the district. He said although Friday was a teacher inservice, teacher attendance at the school was typical of an inservice.

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Gottinger said he was pleased and proud of the teachers in the Lake Geneva Schools for their commitment to the students and the district.

Badger Professional Educator's Association President Dawn Nelson, a language teacher at the school, said some teachers have traveled to Madison, mainly last Wednesday after school and then again this weekend.

On Monday, she said there were plans for taking a bus back to Madison both Tuesday and Wednesday after school.

"We are definitely honoring our contract and continuing to serve the school," Nelson said.

She said those teachers who went this past weekend traveled to the Capitol on their own. Nelson said it is important to go to Madison to support the efforts against the budget bill and back public employees. She called it a "civil liberties and a human rights issue" and the effort is to protect and guard the current and future collective bargaining rights of public employees in the state.

Nelson, who attended the biggest rally so far on Saturday, said it was like a "political Woodstock."

"It was peaceful," she said. "Everyone is so respectful of each other. Standing beside firefighters and electrical workers, all working together."

Nelson said she agreed with her fellow protesters who have suggested there's little problem with teachers funding more of their health insurance and pensions. She said the "big issue" is Walker's desire to end collective bargaining for everything but wages.

Nelson said she believes if this idea is approved, it will have a "huge impact."

"This will have a huge impact on the conditions in schools throughout the state and in other states across the country," she said.

But, despite the contentious issue, Nelson said she didn't have to make a request for teachers stay in class.

"We just did not have members who wanted to walk out of the classrooms," she said. "We have a good relationship with the administration and the community and we want to continue to meet the needs of the students."

Nelson said Badger teachers are "lucky" to have such a great relationship with the administration, board and community. She said not all districts are like that.

Walker, who has garnered national attention during the past two weeks, has said his effort is to balance the state's budget, which currently has a $3.6 billion deficit. However, Walker's idea does not include some emergency personnel such as firefighters and police officers.

Gottinger said the district is awaiting Walker's budget to discuss further the implications of the current budget repair bill. Gottinger said he expects Walker to remove about $900 million from state aid to school districts.

He said the increases in teacher contributions to their health insurance and pensions along with the elimination of collective bargaining for everything but wages, appears to be intended to "give the school boards the meat to offset that."

Nelson said she understands the budget problems looming in the state. She said she would like to see civil compromise that results in a fair and equitable solution for everyone.

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    Hang in There Teachers
    February 23, 2011 | 11:00 AM

    To be fair to the kids in school, the local teachers did the right thing by showing up for work and continuing to provide a great education to their students. I did not know until recently that WI sits second in the nation in ACT scores; a statistic that reflects the quality of teachers we have. It is no coincidence that the states with some of the lowest average scores are those whose state governments had declared collective bargaining illegal. Why would any young person want to teach in an environment where they have no say in how this are done in their profession? I'm afraid that this budget "repair" bill as it is called is going to cause so much damage to this great state that it will take years and years to recover. While many states are addressing their deficits with reason, several are moving down this slippery slope towards joining the rest of them at the bottom. This is all happening at a time where education is the only thing we have to pull our country out of one major mess. Lets hope that this thing can at least be reversed in the future.

    Hang in there all you teachers and good luck.

    Dave
    Williams Bay
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    Hang in there Taxpayers
    February 23, 2011 | 11:54 AM

    A shout out to all the people who aren't teachers that showed up at their job last week and provided quality work and effort. It amazes me that we're actually thanking teachers for doing what the rest of us do on a regular basis, SHOWING UP FOR WORK. Well, here's to the rest of us for doing our job and not having to be thanked for it....

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    teachers
    February 23, 2011 | 12:16 PM

    i have no more disgust than that i have for these teachers that have no reality of the fiscal situation the state is in, and their role in it and their unwillingness to take cuts like all the rest of us have had to. your union mentality of thinking you are above us ,your greed and ignorance make me sick!

    c. lawson
    linn
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    C Lawson
    February 23, 2011 | 02:18 PM

    I agree as who ever tried to teach you anything failed. Moron.

    Local Resident
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    Lawson
    February 24, 2011 | 12:43 PM

    Lawson you are ignorant. Tell me where in the article a teacher said they were protesting the increase in taxes?

    Since you have already proven your reading skills are inadequate I will summarize for you... It doesn't! This is not about taxes. It is about collective bargaining.



    BadgerT
    Lake Geneva
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    badger t
    February 26, 2011 | 06:29 AM

    your thinking that union collective bargaining has no effect on tax increases just proves my point. thankyou!

    c.lawson
    linn
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    Local Impact
    February 26, 2011 | 01:18 PM

    If this budget bill goes through, a number of things will start to happen in this state as well as any other state that addresses their budget shortfall by attacking public employees. The main impact is obviously economic. Consumer spending is a good chunk of our GDP and cuts to public employees is going to lead to less spending on consumer goods in the state. This means less sales tax and more job losses for businesses that sell things to consumers. While the state's new business incentives may be worthwhile, they will take some time to kick in. Our area depends on consumer spending by locals as well as out of state visitors. If you take all the households that depend on public employee income and recognize that they will not be going to the Target that often, you start to see where this is going. Magnify this to cover every municipality in the state and you have a serious problem with sales taxes. We all need to get our elected officials to think this over very carefully.


    Dave Yost
    Williams Bay
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    Response to Dave Yost's comment
    February 26, 2011 | 04:01 PM

    I see this everytime someone brings up spending cuts of any kind. Everyone screams that the government needs to cut spending but they don't want government to cut their programs. So, I ask this. JUST WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT SUPPOSE TO CUT IF NO ONE WANTS THEIR PROGRAMS CUT? WHERE??????? All the government is asking is that public employees come down to earth and share in the paying for their benefits like those in the private sector. It is union workers and their guaranteed benefits and pay increases that keep driving up the costs on domestic products year after year and driving business overseas. Who gets stuck paying for those increases? People like me in the private sector and because union workers jobs are guaranteed by their contract people in the private sector lose their jobs. So to Mr. Post don't make it sound like just because the unionized public worker having to pay something into their benifits is going to cause calamity in the economy. It won't hurt them to pay something.

    Private Sector Unemployed
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    The TEACHERS HAVE YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURES
    March 01, 2011 | 01:49 PM

    but who is watching over the TEACHERS futures? This District is full of highly educated creative talent...they don't teach your children because they have to, THEY DO IT BECAUSE they love to. It's time Lake Geneva stands behind the teachers and holds a RALLY for them, with them to oppose these cuts...THIS IS NOT ABOUT PAY, THEY SAID THEY WOULD PAY...this is about exploding class sizes and cut activities that help grow children into the knowledge of who they are.
    If you want cuts, lets start with taxes, let the 2/3 of corporate tax holes close, and if manufacturing wants to run overseas, GO. We will find another business to replace you. This is America and if we don't draw a line in the sand where enough is enough, they will take your last breathe.
    If some American manufacturing doesn't believe in America we will have other leaders in business pick up where they leave off. Everyone in America had been stunted over these last 15 years complaining but not problem solving, and I've had it!
    I am not going to let my children grow up in a society that will regress to 3rd world balance in order to compete.
    The states WITHOUT UNIONS are in WORST deficit shape than those that have unions, educate yourself, fight for your rights and those of your neighbors, or you will find yourself living at 3rd world standards wondering what happened to America, where did it go as you are hauled off to prison for not showing for work although you could barely stand anymore from a broken body, from abusive working conditions. This is no lie this is working for an AMERICAN MANUFACTURING PLANT IN CHINA NOW!

    UNIONized
    LAKE GENEVA
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    Hey you smart people out there!!!
    March 01, 2011 | 02:06 PM

    The budget bill passes on the task of cutting services and salaries of your local town!
    How would you like to have garbage pick up every two weeks or so?
    How about only have a few police but in a slowing economy means more crime?
    How about those union workers and others layed-off by this budget no longer spending money in our town, small business loosing more revenue when they are already only hanging on by a string?
    More foreclosures, and declining housing, if people loose jobs, and have wages cut they loose everything?
    How about big class sizes with standard education, no extras?
    How about empty store fronts?
    Let's go back to those times, about 15-20 years ago, Lake Geneva was nothing...stone manor went to property tax auction for 120,000. Not to long ago.
    This budget will create higher property taxes for localities that don't want to cut to minimums. This budget was poorly constructed and was made to smash the union, to create a right to work state. What about the sale of Wisconsin assets for whatever Scott Walker wants without open bid, and without public input? Wake up, read the bill, it is terrible for Wisconsin.

    Wake up
    Lake Geneva
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    I resent
    March 01, 2011 | 02:39 PM

    I resent the implications that public employees have not felt the fiscal dollar squeeze. Tell that to the 206 county workers who lost their jobs since Bretl took over. At the local level, most public employees are already paying into the health care package. Mine is at 10% already. So, basically, the "private" sector is pissed at the public sector because SOME of us are still working. Hmmmmm.....so that means that 19.9% (1032 in 2003, 826 in 2011 budget paperwork) of county employees who lost their jobs BEFORE the private sector felt a thing never felt it? Really?

    As some other posters have mentioned - just wait until your services are cut...then you'll be screaming that we are lazy...shovel leaning....ingrates. Even with contributions into the system, existing contracts are STILL valid. So, what happens when Walker cuts the aid to local units and they CAN'T make it up due to the levy cap restrictions? Service levels MUST come down. Watch the roads crumble - watch the grass grow higher than your cars (this was bad last year - it will be insane this year). Remember and don't you dare call you local government units and complain about how unsightly or poorly maintained things are.

    I'm expecting the bill to eventually pass. I'm not whining. I'll keep working like I've been doing. But, when / if the economy recovers and you private sector whiners start earning your double digit wages - remember that the public sector employees will still be taking it in the _ _ _ because once its gone - it never comes back.

    Road to NO Where
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    RE: UNIONized
    March 01, 2011 | 03:37 PM

    You say we should cut taxes. Well I agree and we need to start with schools. That is where most of our tax money goes and why? Teachers salaries, benefits and little if any to actual needs to teach children. That is the plain simple fact.
    I agree corporate loopholes need to be closed and that is also why the entire tax code needs to be redone.
    But, ALL unions will not allow that to happen and have their well dry up. Everytime Teachers scream for more more money it is in the name of BETTER EDUCATING THE CHILDREN. You also say teachers don't teacher because they have to , it is because they want too. In that case then money should never be an object into teaching. The same hold true for Doctors, Nurses, Emt's, Law Enforcement, Firefighters. They all do what they do because they want too. I empty garbage cans and clean vomit from toilets because I have too. I only get $7.50 an hour and no benefits. Do I see any of these union people feeling sorry for me? Not on your life.
    I appreciate what All the Doctors, Nurses, EMT's, Law Enforcement, Firefighters and even Teachers do, But get real and stop digging in my pocket for your benefits while I go without.

    Frustrated Taxpayer.
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    Hey Wake Up
    March 01, 2011 | 03:48 PM

    Let's go back to those times 15-20 years ago when times were bad. Lake Lawn Resort was open, Dog Track was open, Interlaken was open, Trostel was open, Hillmoor was open and the many small shops were open. The area was busy most of the year. People were working, Bills were being paid at all levels. Ya! Let's go back.

    Frustrated Taxpayer
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    RE: Road to Nowhere
    March 01, 2011 | 03:52 PM

    Where have you been? All those services you speak of are already cut. WHY? It cost to much to cover Salaries and Benefits because many of us in the private sector lost our jobs but, many union workers kept theirs because of Contracts with the unions. That is why services are cut. The private sector can't afford to pay constant sprialling upward union salaries and benefits anymore

    Frustrated Taxpayer.
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    Hey before you start attacking the teachers educate yourself do
    March 01, 2011 | 04:00 PM

    The teachers with their union agreements FIGHT to KEEP CLASS SIZES SMALL TO HAVE A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CHILDREN TO KNOW THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES! THAT IS A FACT, along with countless other measures for your children, they make a salary, so if the class size is large it doesn't effect your pay, it effects YOUR CHILDREN! NOT TO MENTION THE TEACHERS AGREED TO A COMPROMISE!!!!!
    When your police force and city workers are cut, don't call city hall, no one will be there to answer the phone, to fix the pot hole, or the one police officer will be trying to save the lives and stop the crimes of a whole city.
    When YOUR GARBAGE IS STINKING IN 90 degree heat with rats in the streets, to bad!!
    When YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE SKY HIGH, but the area is depressed and store fronts and vacant, don't rag! YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!
    Scott Walker is attacking Wisconsin for political gain.
    WALKER RESIGN!

    UNIONised
    Lake Geneva
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    just heard the budget
    March 01, 2011 | 04:28 PM

    Outline and I am excited for our future!!!! School choice expanding, huge expansion of the voucher program, taxing limits, reductions in state aid, ending recycling mandates, no more monopoly on teachers with union and teaching certificates meaning competition. Less state mandates, tools to cut so the private sector can grow rather than government.

    joe taxpayer
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    RE: Joe taxpayer
    March 01, 2011 | 05:24 PM

    I'll buy you a free ride to China so you can get started on Communism! It's not right to work pal, it's your gonna work until you fall down and die, don't worry you'll have plenty of family time, because children and all will be right next to you! Guess what at the end of a 18 hour day without a break, or medical care although you sewed through your palm, you all get to squeeze together and share a bunk bed next to all the other works, and you'll get your pay at the end of the month...GUESS WHAT YOU GET TO LEARN ALL ABOUT GUNS, because they will be up close and personal in every aspect of your life, usually pointed right at your head.
    IF WISCONSIN/AMERICA HAS TO REGRESS TO THAT OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES TO KEEP BUSINESS, I SAY LEAVE! We will make it with out you. America started with a group on the Mayflower with nothing, not knowing nothing about the region.

    COPORATISM IS REPRESSION and FASCIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lake Geneva
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    Re: COPORATISM IS REPRESSION and FASCIST!!!!!!!!!!!!, Lake Genev
    March 01, 2011 | 06:32 PM

    Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money.

    Liberals are FUNNY!
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    Here... This will clear it all up for you...
    March 01, 2011 | 06:37 PM

    http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=2119601&SPID=37725

    Even a Liberal can Understand This
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    March 01, 2011 | 07:13 PM

    Let’s look at each of your points here.
    1... The teachers with their union agreements FIGHT to KEEP CLASS SIZES SMALL TO HAVE A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CHILDREN TO KNOW THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES! THAT IS A FACT, along with countless other measures for your children, they make a salary, so if the class size is large it doesn't effect your pay, it effects YOUR CHILDREN! NOT TO MENTION THE TEACHERS AGREED TO A COMPROMISE!!!!!

    Why do we as a nation have the lowest grade average and President Obama keeps talking about bringing higher educated workers here from other nations because we just don’t meet the level of education here. Lower educated students with Collective Bargaining.

    2... When your police force and city workers are cut, don't call city hall, no one will be there to answer the phone, to fix the pot hole, or the one police officer will be trying to save the lives and stop the crimes of a whole city.

    Roads haven’t been taken care of in this county in years even with collective bargaining. Police and other emergency services have been cut with Collective Bargaining. How many of you public workers marched against Police cuts in the area? I never seen one protestor marching for them. So don’t put that at the private sectors feet alone.

    3... When YOUR GARBAGE IS STINKING IN 90 degree heat with rats in the streets, to bad!!

    I remember when there use to be 2 even 3 people working on garbage trucks. That disappeared with Collective Bargaining. Now we have 1 person per truck.

    4... When YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE SKY HIGH, but the area is depressed and store fronts and vacant, don't rag! YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!

    Our property taxes have constantly gone sky high with Collective Bargaining and we have depressed areas, empty stores, closed businesses, empty homes, high unemployment all with Collective Bargaining.

    5... Scott Walker is attacking Wisconsin for political gain.

    What has the Democratic leadership been doing all this time? It is because of the mess they left that this state and country are on the brink of disaster. All this talk of the Governor ramming this bill thru can be looked at the same way Obamacare was rammed thru congress and passed without anyone reading it. As for political gain, show one politician on either side of the aisle who doesn’t do things for political gain. That is why this country is in the mess it is in. Take a look at all the political donations made to campaigns and you will see the majority are unions.

    6... WALKER RESIGN!

    Recall all those Senators who walked off their elected jobs.




    Frustrated Taxpayer
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    Amen Frustrated
    March 01, 2011 | 07:25 PM

    I always love da union's answer to budget problems, raise taxes. Too bad people have figured out the real problem is their out of control benefits. I hope Governor Walker keeps his promise and pink slips a bunch of them. I wonder that da unions will do to help those they CLAIM to care so much about.

    Q: What do you call 14 democrats that have left the state?
    A: A good start.

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh waaaahhhhhh
    March 01, 2011 | 09:18 PM

    Q: What do you call 14 democrats that have left the state?

    A: A good start.

    LOVE IT!!!!

    And Frustrated - you are EXACTLY right

    Unions SUCK taxpayers dry
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    Quick test
    March 02, 2011 | 10:02 AM

    1. Why do the teachers have to buy insurance from their union, even though they could save $68 million each year if they got the same coverage elsewhere?

    2. Why do they have tenure?

    3. Why and how much does their right to viagra cost us each year?

    4. If my daughter has 6 more kids in her class, will she really learn less? If so, prove it.

    5. Bullying is not ok in school, but at the State Capital it is, why you are "sick" and unable to work?

    6. Why could Steve Jobs not teach a class on the I Pad at a school in the State of Wisconsin?

    7. Even though our overall ACT's represent the lowest scores in the global economy against such emerging countries such as India, China, Thialand, and we are spending about $12,000 per child for 8 months of schooling do we still need to throw even more money into the union abyss that is also known as our education system?

    8. So if $12,000 is not enough, what number will finally end the whining? $20,000? $30,000?

    9. Why are the teachers so against school choice and voucher programs?

    10. How can private schools educate our children for about 1/2 the cost?



    joe taxpayer
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    Just a couple thoughts
    March 02, 2011 | 10:58 AM

    First - good students as a general rule - have good parents helping (pushing) them. Teachers don't teach in a vacuum and need the support of parents to get this right. Its not supposed to be a babysitting system. Show up at parent teacher night at badger and see who shows up. 99% of the time its the A or B student parents that are there, and way too few of all of us period considering the size of badger it ought to be jammed but its not.

    Second - We can blog til our arms fall off and its not going to do a thing. Elections have consequences says Walker and all the talk radio people. This is true. For the Doyle terms the teachers were protected as he was a WEAC supported elected official. Well, now he's gone and the world moves on. Unfortunately, he stole (Oh I mean "borrowed"...oh no wait..raided) the special funds, counted on federal support to keep this ball rolling and then said he didn't want to run anymore....Gee....Thanks for that. So, education community - its your turn to feel the heat.

    Last item - the key to continued growth and progress is the "sustainability" of the changes. What has changed must be maintained at that level in order for progress to be made. One time cuts and borrowed funds got us into this mess. Lets dig out. But lets not go backwards. Remember today's pain and once the economy starts rolling again - do not go back to pre-recession spending. How about a real long term plan instead of 2 year bandaids. If you were listening, Walker says we have a $250 million structural deficit....thats still a red number people. Its 90% less than what had been proposed in the past deficit wise - but its still a friggin hole!

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