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Skate Park designer Mike McIntyre (left) talks with users of Lake Geneva's skate park during a second workshop. (click for larger version)
July 06, 2011 | 08:07 AM
There's more work to be done, but several city officials and 16 BMXers and skateboarders had their first look at the design and location for the Lake Geneva wheel friendly plaza at Dunn Field next to Eastview Elementary School.

Last Wednesday, Park Board members, city officials, and a number of BMXers and skaters along with Mike McIntyre, a world-renowned skate park designer, gathered at the Riviera for the second time to talk about where to locate a skate facility and what a new skate park could look like.

As McIntyre huddled with the younger people at a table to talk about the details and elements of the skate park, local officials, including Mayor Jim Connors, Public Works Director Dan Winkler and Park Board Chairman Doug Skates, gathered around a screen showing the park location as they discussed the location and its implications. Much of those talks revolved around what the School District officials think of the location, snow removal and avoiding water and sewer lines during and after construction of the park.

McIntyre presented a narrow 220-foot long skate facility that curves around the southeastern portion of the Eastview Elementary School parking lot. The facility will be a flowing continuous plaza made of concrete. It will include a seating area on the north end and landscaping all around. It has concrete bowls, walls, steps, ribs and many other design elements. It won't be fenced in.

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City officials wanted to involve Lake Geneva School District administration in a discussion with McIntyre the next morning to talk about the location and whether it was acceptable. But the designer had an early flight back to California.

Last Thursday, the day after the workshop, Lake Geneva Schools Business Manager Warren Flitcroft, who has been in contact with City Administrator Dennis Jordan regarding the park, but has not attended workshop meetings, said he believes the district and city can work together to determine the best location for the skate facility.

McIntyre said the plaza, if constructed, will be for all levels of skaters and BMXers.

"It is pretty gnarly for the advanced riders," McIntyre said of the difficulty possibilities. "But, you can just do some great wall rides."

The plaza style allows for many riders to be in different areas at the same time. It is much different than the current park, which has wooden ramps.

"This is not going to look like anyone else's park," McIntyre said.

While the officials left with some remaining questions, BMXer Ryan Harris was pleased with the design of the park.

"I like what he did," Harris said after the workshop. "This is exactly what should be built. This looks like nothing I have seen anywhere. It is a Lake Geneva park."

Harris said he wasn't the only one impressed with the design. The other skaters and BMXers also were pleased, too, he thought.

"When I was 10 years old, I would have looked at this park and would have liked it enough to travel to it," he said.

But, he said the work isn't done. During the final 45 minutes of the workshop, the users talked with McIntyre about small adjustments to the park. McIntyre used a red Sharpie to mark up the drawing with the changes.

McIntyre said after the meeting that the more different the site, the more unique and interesting the park becomes.

"This is generated by the site conditions and the community of Lake Geneva," McIntyre said of the design.

The next step will be to reveal final drawings in about two weeks. McIntyre, who flew in from California for the meeting, said he would like to present the final plans during another meeting, likely to the City Council. He said that would allow him to explain all the aspects of the park and why the site and design was chosen.

Throughout the process, McIntyre has stressed the importance of site, layout and design as ways to prevent problems, such as vandalism and crime occurring at the park.

In late May, members of the City Council voted 5-3 to spend $30,000 for design and engineering services for a new skate park that is estimated to cost between $250,000 and $350,000. Tax Incremental Financing District money will be used to fund the park, if it is approved by the City Council.

McIntyre, who is the president of Action Sport Design, led both workshops held. Much of McIntyre's work has been on public municipal skate parks around the country.

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    Good, but...
    July 08, 2011 | 06:17 AM

    I think this is a great idea. However, I do wonder where all the people that were complaining about the city buying a new fire truck are at? Why would this skate park go over without a complaint, but something that is a necessity get's all sorts of opposition??? Either way, I look forward to seeing this park when it's done!

    Resident
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    Skate park clarification
    July 08, 2011 | 10:02 AM

    So far, the council has only approved the $30,000 for the design, not the total expenditure for the project. The vote for the design part of this received some opposition, as can be seen on the 5-3 vote.
    The council still will have to approve the spending to actually build the park. I hope that clarifies the issue as it may have not been clear in the story.

    Lisa the Editor
    LG
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    misinformed
    July 08, 2011 | 11:02 AM

    a fire truck a necessity, where have you been. whats wrong with the truck that we now have. lets see who will buy it a good deal for a smart comunity. were stupid to spend a million dollars on something not needed.

    discusted
    2nd district voter
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    discusted
    July 10, 2011 | 08:09 AM

    I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a new (reliable) fire truck rather than a skate park... but you proved my point exactly. Didn't say a word about spending money on this park, but attacked the fire department about the truck.

    Resident
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    both of these decesions continue to
    July 10, 2011 | 11:09 AM

    demonstrate a real lack of fiscal discipline and leadership.

    joe taxpayer
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    SPENDING
    July 10, 2011 | 02:31 PM

    This outlandish spending on items that do not generat a tax base needs to be stopped by elected officials. The city needs to close these TIF districts NOW.

    Taxpayer Resident
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    VOTE EM OUT
    July 11, 2011 | 05:41 PM

    SPEND SPEND SPEND they dont get it.... In this fiscal climate they should be ashamed... there has to be a better use of 400K
    I have driven by the existing skate park almost daily..... Never seen more than six kids at any time
    This is a joke...

    Sprocket
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    Fresh and Exciting!
    July 13, 2011 | 09:57 AM

    Looks to me the Council is working towards keeping Lake Geneva a city families will choose to visit, instead of one they used to visit.

    Taxpayer
    LG
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    If everybody saves and doesn't spend...
    July 13, 2011 | 01:45 PM

    ... there will be no new jobs. I'm not just talking about the skate park. Borrowing, spending, creating, remodeling, replacing... it all needs to be done to keep people employed. This is how this country operates. The new fire truck keeps the firefighters who need it safe, as well as provides better/faster responses when YOU need it. Plus it keeps the people who build it working. The skate park will employ not only the designer, but contractors (hopefully local ones) and maintenance personnel too. If you want to keep your jobs, as I'm sure most do, there NEEDS to be spending. That is the only way that the economy is going to recover. You should educate yourselves a little more about city budgets, spending and economics before instantly axing everything YOU feel we don't need.

    T
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    If everybody spends and doesn't save....
    July 14, 2011 | 11:30 AM

    .....then we get the situation we're currently in now, only at the local level. Yes, let's borrow and spend on things that we can arguably do with out all because someone thinks we "need" it. The problem is that EVENTUALLY the piper needs to be paid, but some don't seem to care about that part, we'll just "raise taxes". No one wants to prioritize because to do that requires decisions that might "upset" some people. Spending money for the sake of spending money is foolish. Does anyone stop and ask the question "does this need to be done NOW, or is it something that can wait"? Tough times require belt tightening, not spending like the proverbial drunken sailor.

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    Finally, a place for kids to hang out that they wont have to pay
    July 29, 2011 | 04:28 PM

    I grew up in Lake Geneva and skateboarded as kid and still do. I am 29 yrs old and I think what a lot of people are failing to see is that skatepark is a positive place for kids. There is not a lot do in Lake Geneva that isn't free...sure you can enjoy the lake and beaches but all cost money. Skateboards and bikes are relatively cheap and this is a public forum where kids can burn off some steam as well bond with others at no cost. I understand it has a high up front cost for the city....however this is concrete park. Once it is in place, it will be there to stay. I live on the west coast and the midwest is very behind the times. I can't argue about a fire truck but I very very please this is happening and it will last much longer the a fire truck.

    Sneaky P
    Your Town
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    Get with the times
    July 29, 2011 | 04:32 PM

    I am a former resident of Lake Geneva. I currently live in Salt Lake City. Within a 5 mi radius of my home, I can skate a park equal to the designs presented to your city. You need to realize that no other piece of land the town owns will get as much use as the acreage provided to this park. Skating is not a hobby nor sport, its a lifestyle that has powerful values for kids entering adulthood. The fact Lake Geneva has only had modular ramps on a black-top paved surface is a joke and disgrace to a destination and recreational town like Lake Geneva. The question should not be should the park be built or not. Instead, you should be questioning whether you should also just build lights at the same time so you can use it day and night.

    Matt Sterbenz
    Salt Lake City, Utah
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    Not so much....
    July 31, 2011 | 01:46 AM

    "Skating is not a hobby nor sport, its a lifestyle...."

    So is smoking pot, but I don't want the city building a "medial marijuana facility" if it gets legalized...

    Mizike
    LG
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    Ignorant.
    August 01, 2011 | 12:34 AM

    "So is smoking pot, but I don't want the city building a "medial marijuana facility" if it gets legalized.."

    That is a small minded response in comparing drugs to skateboarding. Look at your local bars before you stereo type high school kids for wanting a place to push around a skateboard or ride a bike. I think you watch too much TV.

    A skateboard park is a solution. Not a problem.




    PAUL
    LGB4U
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    Speaking of Ignorant....
    August 01, 2011 | 08:04 AM

    Paul LGB4U comes to mind. When the city builds a "local bar" using tax dollars then you might have an argument, until then, you don't. As for your TV comment, perhaps if people watched a little more TV, they'd see what a freak show something like the X games is. Welcome to Lake Geneva, can't wait till our own freak show comes to town....

    Mizike
    LG
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    ...speaking of ignorant
    August 01, 2011 | 02:41 PM

    .....it is a very valid argument. You want to talk about places that provide toxic environments but you want to disregard bars and all that comes with them....drinking and driving, over-serving, fighting. But yet kids skateboarding pose a larger threat? The freak show called the X games you refer to is a multi-billion dollar industry. Your argument has changed from stereo typing all skateboarders (kids) as drug addicts to a mis-use of tax payer dollars. Which is it? Also, the dispensaries you referred to are privately owned..so again...who's ignorant. If you don't want the city to spend the money than thats fine and I can respect that.....but to lump an entire generation because of the activities they participate in makes you sound old, ignorant and fearful. Maybe if you left your bubble you wouldn't be so uptight about it. Kids don't fly kites, trade baseball cards, or join the boy scouts anymore. They skateboard because its cool and fun. You MIZIKE sound like you are not fun and not cool.

    PAUL
    LGB4U2
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    Time to put the pipe down...
    August 02, 2011 | 08:07 AM

    I'll slow this down so even you can understand Paul. The difference between the freak park and a bar is that the bar IS PRIVATELY OWNED!. Being a freakshow and a waste of tax dollars isn't mutually exclusive. A bar might not be the moral equivalent of a church, but the city and the taxpayer don't subsidize them, endorse them or pay for them. What part of that is so difficult to comprehend?

    So, the X-games are a multi billion dollar industry? I guess by your standards then, we should allow a porn shop to open right downtown. Afterall, porn is legal, a "lifestyle", is a multi billion dollar industry, and has a certain type of person associated with it. Eerie how much the two are alike wouldn't you say? At least the porn shop would be a private business.

    Let me guess, when the next generation of fringe wierdos comes along with another "lifestyle" you'll be in favor of spending city money to cater to their needs too. You started down this slope, good luck getting off it.

    BTW, if I'm considered not "cool and fun" by a bunch of degenerate punks, I'll take that as a compliment....

    Mizike
    LG
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    keep it positive.
    August 02, 2011 | 07:19 PM

    I'm advocate for kids having free, accessible, positive activities in their life.....and I think a skateboarding venue can provide that. Publicly funded or privately funded. Its obvious their is a difference in values.

    Why not provide a place for kids to focus on an independent sport to keep their attention away from pressures like drugs, alcohol, or even the social pressures like not joining/making the football team or another team sport.

    A skatepark is a solution, not a problem.

    -Final Response

    PAUL
    LG4futureNOTpast
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    Sheesh
    August 03, 2011 | 12:05 PM

    "Why not provide a place for kids to focus on an independent sport to keep their attention away from pressures like drugs, alcohol, or even the social pressures like not joining/making the football team or another team sport. "

    So, if the parents aren't able to keep their kids away from drugs and alcohol, a skatepark will? That's pretty confused logic at best. Social pressures? OMG, give me a break. Buy the poor darlings a box of tissue....

    Mizike
    LG
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