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Council OKs Hummel Master Plan change



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August 24, 2011 | 08:08 AM
They came in quietly, one by one, wearing round, green stickers on their shirts that said "Vote no to Hummel."

They left hours later Monday night after directing such comments toward the City Council as "you bastards," and "the fix was in" and threatening to start recalls against the aldermen who voted in opposition of their wishes.

There were nearly three hours of public comments, where all but two of the 30 who spoke were firmly opposed to the Master Plan change to the property owned by Geneva Ridge Joint Venture, also known as Hummel. The public hearing was part of a process to change the plan regarding the 710 acres on the southeast side of the city.

Despite the opposition and the large crowd, which filled the council chambers and overflowed into the upstairs senior center room, and numbered an estimated 160 to 175, aldermen voted 5-3 in favor of the change.

The approval of the amendment reverts the property on the Master Plan to a planned neighborhood with some areas for commercial development. Prior to the approval, the property was designated on the 2010 plan as rural holding with a long-term ex-urban growth overlay, meaning the property was not likely to be ready for development for the next 20 years.

Alderman Frank Marsala, who along with Bill Mott, Todd Krause, Ellyn Kehoe and Alan Kupsik voted in favor of the change, said he believed the amendment was in the "best interest of the future of Lake Geneva."

"There will be a tomorrow and we have to make plans for that," Marsala said.

Mayor Jim Connors said the Master Plan is a "working document" that is subject to change. He said it is not in the best interest of the city to restrict growth. He added that the change does not affect the zoning of the property.

But, Alderman Terry O'Neill, who along with Tom Hartz and Arleen Krohn voted against the change, compared what was happening in council chambers to the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident. He said the student who stood in front of the tank represented the citizens of the city, while the driver of the tank was the City Council.

"You're just going to drive bureacracy over the citizens," O'Neill said.

The amendment now appears to pave the way for Geneva Ridge to propose development on the land. Eventually, before any development can occur on the property, a zoning change would have to be approved by the council. City Planner Mike Slavney said the amendment is the first step of many toward eventual development of the property.

O'Neill also talked about the city being boxed into a corner, but that he couldn't reveal what was going on, other than the residents of the city will "suffer the consequences."

While O'Neill was reading his statement, City Attorney Dan Draper cautioned him about continuing to speak about what may have been revealed during closed session meetings. When Draper warned O'Neill, several in the crowd groaned.

During the public comments, several threatened lawsuits against the city if the amendment was approved, others said it was a promise they would no longer shop, eat or spend money in the city again.

Hartz had some harsh words for those in the audience whom he said did not follow the council's goal of bringing more civil discourse to the chambers.

"We have disagreements, but that doesn't result in threats of lawsuits or removal from the council chambers or suspensions," he said.

"Every single person up here has been listening," Hartz said. "We have to take a tough issue and resolve it."

Hartz said a careful consideration of the facts, without emotions, should be made. He also said it sounds as though whatever decision the council made, there will be a lawsuit.

"I would like to think that there is some way to resolve this without going in front of a judge," he said.

Those opposing the amendment Monday night didn't want to hear that this was the start of a process that could lead to development, but they already appeared to understand the implications of the proposed change.

Geneva Ridge attorney Mark Sansonetti said during his presentation that there are no current plans for the property. Geneva Ridge representatives first brought up the idea of the Master Plan change in April and Sansonetti said the hope for the property is to start a "productive dialogue" about the future of the land.

"There is no plan, no number of homes, there isn't even a concept," Sansonetti said. "We want to revert the city's plan to what it was."

Sansonetti presented several previous maps, including the 1997 and 1999 city comprehensive plan, the 2004 South Neighborhood Plan, and the town of Linn's current Master Plan, which all deem the property as a location for future development. The property was annexed from Linn Township to the city of Lake Geneva in early 2005.

Former alderman Ed Yaeger said development of that large piece of property does not fit in with the city's planning mission statement. He made a prediction of what would happen.

"If you choose to disregard the citizens and modify this plan, you will be creating the new blueprint for disaster," Yaeger said. "Be assured, it will not be a small disaster, it will be a huge disaster."

Others spoke about the affect a large development on that piece of property would have on Geneva Lake.

"My motivation has and always will be the lake," Linn Township resident Grace Hanny said. "Someone has to speak for it. It is one of the most pristine lakes in the state. We all know this would stress the lake."

City resident Marcie Hollmann agreed with Hanny.

"We all love and share the beauty of this lake and want to keep and protect it," she said. "We are here to protect the quality of the lake."

Some of those opposed suggested the vote be delayed until the lawsuits are settled. Geneva Ridge attorneys are in settlement discussions with the city regarding the $124 milion lawsuit.

City resident Don Getzen said there is information that has not yet been made public, that could affect a decision. He admitted the property would be developed at some time, but urged the council not to rush it and to follow the proper process.

"Stand tall and vote no," he finished.

Some of those opposed also suggested a vote in favor of the change by aldermen named in the lawsuit could be part of a settlement with Geneva Ridge.

Linn Township resident Jim Hanny said it is a bad time to be dealing with a litigant. He said if there is no deadline on this change, delay the vote. Others wanted to know answers as to what the basis for the aldermen's decisions before the vote was made.

But, Jim Hanny was not done with his comments. He also said local residents will be ready to engage in any legal means necessary to protect their own property.

Nicholas Egert, who was representing some of the area property owners said a decision in favor of the Master Plan change would be "contrary to the best interest of Lake Geneva" and could increase the city's exposure to legal problems.

""You may be exchanging one lawsuit for another," Egert said. "The new lawsuits will be with the area residents."

Many of those who spoke Monday night were with the Friends group, which led the Vote No Mirbeau/Hummel effort during the 2008 referendum on the development project. The referendum on the plan, which included 882 residential units, retail businesses and an inn and spa failed as 77 percent of the people voted against the plan.

On July 18, despite disapproval from several Linn Township residents, some city residents and neighbors of the 710 acres on the southeast side of the city, the Lake Geneva Plan Commission voted 5-2 to recommend the change to the Master Plan for the property.

At the July 18 Plan Commission meeting, Connors, who was part of the Vote No Mirbeau Hummel group prior to being elected, and Hartz voted in favor of recommending the amendment. During that meeting, Hartz said he wanted the issue to go to a public hearing in front of the council.

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    Get out the pitchforks and storm the castle
    August 24, 2011 | 10:27 AM

    "They left hours later Monday night after directing such comments toward the City Council as "you bastards," and "the fix was in" and threatening to start recalls against the aldermen who voted in opposition of their wishes."

    If the recall process begins, count me in. It's pretty obvious that the vast majority of the community is against this, yet 5 of the people elected to represent US decided to say "to hell with the wishes of the community". If there was EVER a better reason to boot them out of office, I'd like to know what it would be. My hope is a new set of alderman can be put into place before it's too late to do something about it.

    Enough Already
    Lake Geneva
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    loud and obnoxious
    August 24, 2011 | 11:45 AM

    Shouting "you bastards"? How juvenile. Wow, I guess the true uncivilized nature of the linn group has been revealed.

    The "linn friends group" must have spent thousands of dollars on "fear-mongering", signs, mailers and robo-telephone-calling every man, woman and child and out of a population of more than 7,000 in the CITY, twenty-something people went and spoke against this, most from linn too!

    NIMBY mob mentality.


    saw it
    in the CITY
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    Recall?
    August 24, 2011 | 12:01 PM

    Haven't the radicals wasted enough time and money with recalls? From where I sit, there are about 28 people who are against it. e.g. the ones that showed up to voice their opinion against it. Assuming the aldermen are doing their respective jobs, I would imagine that the constituents they have heard from concerning this matter are guiding their decisions, at least partly. It's pretty obvious that the direction they have chose offers the least liability to the city in terms of lawsuits.

    Lake Geneva
    Lake Geneva, WI.
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    the time IS now
    August 24, 2011 | 12:11 PM

    It's time we take the city back from the money grubbing mongrels who tricked the council. That land must stay the way it is- they dont care what development will do to our lake or the city. Like a small child who wants another cookie, it's time to say no and take control of our cookie jar- no Mr Hummel you can't build here! I'll get my pitchfork ready.

    Freedom Fighter
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    More than meets the eye
    August 24, 2011 | 12:40 PM

    If the City Attorney is cautioning an alderman not to reveal what has taken place in closed session, you know there is something going on with this lawsuit that is affecting votes. I live outside the city (thankfully), but if I were a citizen of Lake Geneva, I would be pretty ticked. And all these people were right--there's no rush on this......unless there's a back-door deal going on. You all deserve more transparency than that. This is a huge issue, and you need to get it out in the open so the citizens can decide and make their voices heard.

    Veejay
    Lyons Township
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    Where is the fairness
    August 24, 2011 | 01:33 PM

    to the land owners? When they bought the property it was mapped as neighborhood development from 1991 thru 2009. Which meant that Lake Geneva seen into the future some 20 years ago for a residential development going there. Otherwise why would they map out sewer and water and the new 120 bypass around the land? To Freedom Fighter I have to say your signature doesn't fit your comment. Because you said quote "That land must stay the way it is" where is the freedom for these land owners on that comment. You and many others in and around Lake Geneva want this land to stay as it is forever there is one way to do that. Pool your monies together and make the owners a FAIR offer to purchase it and turn it over to the conservancy and it will stay just as it is now forever. Otherwise you and all the rest are denying these owners their right to develop their land according to the master plan set forth just as many of you developed your land. Fair is Fair for everyone not just a few.

    W.H
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    Told you so....!
    August 24, 2011 | 04:47 PM

    As a former member of the Linn Plan Commission and a current LG resident too close to this development for comfort, I have a couple of points - 1) We voted this down in Linn at least twice. 2) LG City Council voted down the annexation until the beloved Michael "McBribe" heard Linn Town Chairman Bollweg say that if it was to ever be developed it should stay rural and in Linn...so McBride changed his vote and annexed the property - 3) The council promptly turned down the developers plans for the property and got the City into hot water. Why is it that the minute something doesn't go your way you feel the need to sue and get nasty? 4) Geneva Ridge is a name already used in Geneva Township property formerly known as Interlaken...now we will have two of them? 6) Don't we already have enough undeveloped and unwanted property in this area (condos on the market in the hundereds, homes selling for 3/4 value, empty lots grown over, empty commercial property) Why do we need to take 710 acres of mostly productive farmland and turn it over to yet another developer that has nothing better to do than act like a politician?

    Brent Wambold
    Lake Geneva
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    August 25, 2011 | 12:36 PM

    I agree with Mr. Wambold - there are already way too many empty properties in the area. Why develop more?

    Wendy
    Lake Geneva
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    A partial apology
    August 25, 2011 | 05:08 PM

    While I don't agree with much that goes on in city government these days, it may have appeared that my play on former alderman Mac McBride's last name was unfortunate. I know of no impropriety on his or anyone else's part - that was not my intention...I do apologize if anyone took that one line out of context. The rest of the facts came directly from the Regional News coverage of the event...that I stand by! Stop building and gobbling up farmland for unnecessary developments.

    B. Wambold
    LG
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    to the NIMBY's
    August 25, 2011 | 10:44 PM

    Not everyone at that hearing was opposed to the hummel plan. Unfortunately, your NIMBY mob mentality scared anyone from voicing their support or attending the meeting to support them. Hummel does have rights and the rug was pulled out from under them when they changed the plan. Where were you when the previous plans were drafted? Your "facts" regarding the development are not so factual. Look at the SWERPAC development over the last 30 years. Most development in LG has occured around the lakes, and the water quality has stayed the same or improved. Some of the largest threats to the watershed is farmland. Look at Lake Delavan. There is little to no regulation of farmers. Manure spread on that land could reek more havoc on the lake then an over-engineered residential development. Also what about the aging septic systems around the lake? Why dont you take on the Farm Lobby if you want to protect our watersheds. In regards to saving the taxpayers $, would it be more cost effective to just have them foot the bill for the $100 million dollar lawsuit? If you want to tell your neighbor what to do with their land, buy it. Otherwise Move somewhere else. Glad the Counsel has the balls to do what's right and supports constitutional rights.

    proud of our counsel in Lake Geneva
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    Mr Wamb oldt
    August 26, 2011 | 11:03 AM

    Your partial apology is partially accepted. Your "facts" are still in error, partially. Chairman Bollweg did not cause me to vote for annexation, his actions just illustrated the need for an affirmative vote. Being a former member of the township planning commision you will remember that Mr. Bollweg attempted to bring in a kerosene plant and locate it next to the property at that time being considered for annexation. Being the southern entrance to the City I was concerned as to what other lenghts the Township would go to defile the area from the City limits to the Stateline. If the City ever has the opportunity to annex in the property that goes to the stateline I would be in favor of that annexation also, but only if brought in zoned Rural Holding. As I have always stated just because property is annexed into the city doesn't mean it has to be immediately developed, but 20, 30, or 40 years from now there might be the right use for that land within the City limits. I disagree with the vote to change the Master Plan, at this time the City is ill-prepared to provide City services to that area. And As the Mayor and others have pointed out there is extensive amount of vacant lots to be built on. Prime example is the 735 or so approved residential lots on the former raceway land. To quickly finish up, Attorney Draper's admonition to Aldermen not to speak about closed door discussions is not because of underhanded, or sneaky behind the back subterfuge, it is STATE LAW!! Lord knows there were several times I wish I could have let everyone know of what was said behind closed doors, but the law is the law.
    Again thank you Mr. Wamboldt for the apology on here, I would have much rather have had the coffee, but maybe another time.

    Mac McBride
    Lake Geneva
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    My Apology
    August 26, 2011 | 11:07 AM

    Sorry for the misspelling, Mr. Wambold, was not intentional.

    Mac
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    OMG
    August 26, 2011 | 02:46 PM

    Bet Scott Storms doesn't look so bad now for all of you who didn't vote for him!!!!

    Just saying
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